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Post Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:04 pm

Hi, again, everyone. A couple questions, and a comment:

Is this "project" still alive?

What are the legalities? (Perhaps this has been discussed previously?)

I can't imagine JMS or WB being too upset if a few fans get involved and upgrade the CGI or run the audio through a subharmonic synthesizer / eq., for the pleasure of a few people on a website. But, what about a more public demonstration, such as in the "high end" section of the Consumer Electronics Show? (I'd actually think JMS might give such a project his blessing, though if I was him, I think I'd want the right to review it before such a "release"!) If such a segment was run in one small demo room capable of seating 20 people, and you run the demo once every 10 minutes, then you have (roughly) 3.5 days x 8 hours per day X 6 demos per hour X 20 viewers per demo = 3360 "WOW!'d" viewers. And if they like it, a lot of these people could be encouraged to get a free (or at least, "at cost") copy of the segment to take back to their stores, etc. IF JMS / WB would allow it. (Actually, I don't think JMS / WB would prevent someone from playing a legally purchased DVD at such a show, and running it through some audio / video processing at the time of play. But, redoing the CGI, and / or providing free "demo disks" is another matter. Still, you don't really want to run the original video through a big plasma screen, I suspect...)

Others here surely know a lot more about the legalities, than I do, which is why I am asking! :mrgreen:

Over on the "bad behavior" thread, the point has been made that other than the RPG (and other?) game(s?), there is not much new in the B5 universe, or on this forum. Therefor, interest in B5, and this forum, wanes. But, there is a very large potential audience that was never touched, and another (youngsters) that has never been approached. B5, at it's core, is simply superior to most of the TV of it's time, and certainly superior to almost all current TV. The question, it seems to me, is how to find and attract a new audience. Spiffing up the audio / video of the battle scene in Severed Dreams (for example), and presenting it to the right groups, could be quite effective, I believe. Maybe JMS would agree?
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Post Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:12 pm

BTW, I forgot to mention that I might, might know someone who would be willing to use a segment such as I've discussed at their display at CES. I've only briefly discussed it with one of them them. (That discussion is actually in more of the e-mail I quoted above, which I have not reproduced here due to privacy, and also their commercial interests in audio and computer based audio test equipment they would be displaying / marketing at CES.)
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Post Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:16 pm

Hi paulr.
I like your idea about the improved sound a lot.
Regarding this project i think you got the wrong impression. At the moment its just a personal project i am working on,its far from being anything official.
I had much work to do around christmas so i didnt had much time to work on this lately.

Of course it would be very nice if this project could be turned into something official but that would require much legal stuff and A LOT more resources.
On the other hand we could do this just for us people here at B5Tech,but i would require help as i cant do this alone. I know there are a few other artists around here maybe we could draw up a list what each of them(if they are willing) could do in this project.

Oh and here a brief update on the scene i was working on last,its set up now and i just need to render out the stuff and do some post in After Effects.



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Post Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:22 pm

What's shooting at it? Or have you not rendered that yet?
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Post Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:10 pm

It makes sense when you see it in motion :)
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Post Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:10 pm

LeGuille wrote:What's shooting at it? Or have you not rendered that yet?


2 White Stars very far away.

As for the legal issue you're worried about Lemon Wolf... WB is dropping the license soon, so in about a year (or less), there will be no issue.
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Post Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:07 am

Can you provide me with shots of models, with a transparent background, in PSD? I'd like to make a poster for myself :P
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Post Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:12 pm

Yes i could but you have to consider that if you mix them together (i dont really know what eyou want to put together) there might be lightning/perspective mismatch.
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Post Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:51 am

You are doing an impressive work, Lemon Wolf. I am amazed :eek:.
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Post Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:57 am

LeGuille wrote:
What's shooting at it? Or have you not rendered that yet?


2 White Stars very far away.

As for the legal issue you're worried about Lemon Wolf... WB is dropping the license soon, so in about a year (or less), there will be no issue.


Severed Dreams!?
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Post Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:09 pm

No. The one where Babylon 5 liberates Proxima III.
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Post Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:44 pm

:| :| :oops: Believe it or not I watched the episode just before I saw this and rattled of the wrong name somehow.
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Post Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:49 pm

Abraxas wrote:
As for the legal issue you're worried about Lemon Wolf... WB is dropping the license soon, so in about a year (or less), there will be no issue.

Does this mean they're doing away with B5 altogether now?
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Post Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:25 pm

You don't have various models in netural lighting? Interesting.

I can edit the lighting, I would just like various shots that I can montage together for a battle, or appear as a conflict. I'd like to get a capture of a scene for Severed Dreams, and then I will do the rest from there as a filter-light poster.

I do not have the 3D rendering capabilities, so that's why I needed the PSD files.
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Post Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:14 pm

wusolja wrote:
Abraxas wrote:
As for the legal issue you're worried about Lemon Wolf... WB is dropping the license soon, so in about a year (or less), there will be no issue.

Does this mean they're doing away with B5 altogether now?


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